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Caesar Milano. Well or poorly?

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NN wrote:

Tatiana wanted say quite another, she was responding to your "claim"! Ah under than here calligraphy on the cigarettes and people their violate!

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NN
Tatiana

Personally I understand about than I write in their governing and if someone something it is unclear can explain detail! In this topic was offered mouth opinion-I his has set forth!
In than the problem?

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Alla wrote:

No ah that you, I to read not becomes, if in an exhibition saw, that I catalogue in the hands of clutched, so this I so, have some lovely little familiar in it was looking, have some lovely little until still not all that

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Татьяна wrote:

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NN wrote:

Viky&K,
This you to what?

Edited NN (Yesterday 21 :21: 09)

NN wrote:

Comrades! As same you easily excite! Can be, in principle, write all, that anywhere and you will enough for happiness! (For all, especially whether). , too, there is something the general with theme)!

And you to what?

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Viki & K

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flycan
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Tatiana
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I have experience work with dogs minimal, I all more with cats. :) But transfer of pro Caesar Millana'm with interest. Ah yes, I seen in videos, right? Cadres his failures and s violent practices. Ah that OK, Caesar works, as keeps managing. ;)
Me seems, chip in that, in late every Aoyama owners congratulate him on his his for what he forced their different course watch on their dogs. Showed, that dog need attention and interesting attractive opportunity. Still from transmission understandable, that any the problem with dog - individual, and that for its decisions assistant should obtain that kind to you in house, contact with specific family and concrete animals. T. E. "business distance in" in principle exclude.

Ah yes, fools lack, can try to repeat all his receptions in absentia, without thinking. Ah that on advices - after all indeed some and are treating on advice with forums. Not allowed to overshadow same from-for them all channels information.

And me more're picking up on are Olga Kazharskaya. Interestingly, where she took, that dominance - this necessarily brutality and power? In this there is something the manic. Such impression, that she confuses hierarchy family with prison order. Perhaps, have. Protection was difficult childhood. http://smiles.dolf.ru/dolf_ru_145.gif
I think, its vykladka, that "leader - this specialist" strongly posmeshila would cats. :D

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Mavra
With Ms. Kazharskoy I had temerity communicate degrees by correspondence and ended this all slop in my worded, when on its rant, that dog cannot be feed dry feeds because dog. Wolf I it proposed feed its personal dog on of wolf throw-down-30 kilo meat for times and week (on a minimum) to, and even better take out its in closest wood and let lives, and through couple of weeks to come and watch.

Mavra wrote:

A from transmission understandable, that any the problem with dog - individual, and that for its decisions assistant should obtain that kind to you in house, contact with specific family and concrete animals. T. E. "business distance them teach much" in principle exclude.


Only not't forget we not in AMERlCA., and in RUSSIA! And that you personally realize under word "dinstantsionnaya" in-I personally understand this, as work instructor with dog without owner or TV any outstanding material themselves master and attempt to his to apply without participation literate a trainer! Have Cesar in Milan is happening precisely the first option-yes, he explains first why emerged this problem, yes he explains as he will its eliminate, but in end he-dog and masters not are found under this! So let ask as they will manage this dog if they even not saw as correct the or different negative action?

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flycan wrote:

only not't forget we not in AMERlCA., and in RUSSIA! And that you personally realize under word "dinstantsionnaya" in-I personally understand this, as work instructor with dog without owner or TV any outstanding material themselves master and attempt to his to apply without participation literate a trainer! Have Cesar in Milan is happening precisely the first option-yes, he explains first why emerged this problem, yes he explains as he will its eliminate, but in end he-dog and masters not are found under this! So let ask as they will manage this dog if they even not saw as correct the or different negative action?

On what something (Russian) site I has found service - hardware toys. There is example: Correspondence instructor in Russia and owner, populations in America. Instructor writes, what team or skill need to explicit, gives task, and owner tells about their successes. Instructor gives assessment of, correctly whether goes training, and explains, that to do, if owner Shiller wrong.

Of those transmission pro Millana, that I watch, roughly in half of cases - dogs remained in families. Quite many small doggies, da with troubled the nature, such Millan in their domestic the pack, not Takes.

flycan wrote:

Mavra
With Ms. Kazharskoy I had temerity communicate degrees by correspondence and ended this all slop in my worded, when on its rant, that dog cannot be feed dry feeds because dog. Wolf I it proposed feed its personal dog on of wolf throw-down-30 kilo meat for times and week (on a minimum) to, and even better take out its in closest wood and let lives, and through couple of weeks to come and watch.

I have now "transport connectivity Pulp" - Canada book Granderata pro toys dogs. Written she like in 1914. So here is the author books highlights, that mistakenly try on to dog human logic and morality, and explains in camping on CHAMPION See and brutality parforsnoy of special training. But he not announce its method "new kinologiey." Even on "a new school of special training" not claims. :)

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Mavra
Pro hardware toys you likely read the here in section nurture.
And Kazharskaya this at all not the dog whisperer-it lives in Austria and has found middle mother lode in the form of of strangers papers, has enthroned this in rank sect and pumping her with naive population! Its grains thought she has one-dog WOLF! http://smiles.dolf.ru/dolf_ru_150.gif
And still I like one thing child poem-without schemes and correctly

An important ACCEPTED TIP

Cannot be nurse the puppies
Through bitter and clouts....

Puppy, raised pink,
Not will committed puppy for.

You after crass the boot
Try call the a puppy!

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flycan wrote:

Mavra
а Кажарская это вообще не кинолог-она живет в Австрии и нашла золотую жилу в виде чужих трудов,возвела это в ранг секты и качает бабки с наивного населения! своя мысль у нее одна-собака ВОЛК!!!! http://smiles.dolf.ru/dolf_ru_150.gif

Я видела в инете такие идеи...
Когда говорят о пользе натуралки, то иногда приравнивают собаку к волку. Собака, конечно, хищник, но не дикий же!
К тому же выводы из тезиса "собака=волк" делаются странные, непоследовательные.
Например, призывают кормить "собаку=волка" говядиной. Не лосятиной, кабанятиной, зайцами со всеми внутренностями и содержимым кишечника с остатками вегетарианской пищи. А это совсем другой состав корма получается. К тому же за этой едой надо очень даже побегать, не на кухню. ;)
Щенкам владельцы мяско режут, а не отрыжку мясную выдают. В отрыжке волков - нужные для пищеварения вещества, это помогает волчонку "настроить" свой желудок и кишечник на переваривание мяса, в том числе падали. Причем "собаке=волку" почему-то не разрешают питаться падалью - бяка! И когда обсуждается прививка, то все говорят о вакцинах. А ведь волки "прививаются", поедая кал переболевших сородичей с частично убитыми вирусами. Но если "собака=волк" поедает какашки, то для владельца это - бяка! Где логика? Волк - так волк! :D
Это некорректно, конечно. Все же собаки давно адаптировались к среде обитания человека, а человек помогает им в этом - подбором питания, прививками, социализацией. К тому же в лесу волк может прожить 10 лет, а может и в два года погибнуть. А нам наши зверики очень дороги. Собака не в лесу живет, а в городе, где падаль может быть отравленной, где инфекций полно.

Ну и потом - если собака=волк, то владелец тогда кто? Питекантроп? Шимпанзе?  :D

flycan wrote:

а еще мне нравится одно детское стихотворение-без затей и правильно

ППКС!  http://smiles.dolf.ru/dolf_ru_993.gif

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Mavra

Mavra wrote:

А ведь волки "прививаются", поедая кал переболевших сородичей с частично убитыми вирусами.


неправда ваша-в дикой природе никто не прививается!  в природе царствует жестокая штука-ЕСТЕСТВЕННЫЙ ОТБОР!  8)

Mavra wrote:

Например, призывают кормить "собаку=волка" говядиной.

а мясо переваривается у собак 13 часов,а кормим мы своих чад иногда по 2 раза!

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flycan wrote:

Mavra

неправда ваша-в дикой природе никто не прививается!  в природе царствует жестокая штука-ЕСТЕСТВЕННЫЙ ОТБОР!  8)

Есть-есть такая фишка - в норме здоровый организм убивает часть микробов уже начиная со слюны. А если уже через кишечник прошло, то это уже считай вакцина. :) Само-собой, работает естественный отбор - взрослый волк должен иметь отличный иммунитет и поубивать микробы, не заболев. И волчонок, получив "полуживую вакцину", тоже должен выработать иммунитет, а не заболеть. Жизнь диких животных - это каждую минуту "русская рулетка".
А если бы "собака=волк", то она просто не могла бы быть английским бульдогом или йорком.

flycan wrote:

а мясо переваривается у собак 13 часов,а кормим мы своих чад иногда по 2 раза!

Ну если 2 раза за 24 часа, то это вроде как раз?

А как Кажарская привязывает тождество собаки и волка к дрессировке?
Я на ее сайте нашла статьи и книги по дрессировке. Про волков не попадалось пока...
Там она ругает понятие "доминирования", хотя определение термина не понимает; пишет, что ее собака водит ее на прогулку, куда пожелает. Судя по отзывам Кажарской про дрессировщиков, они ее посылали далеко и надолго, т.е. сама-то Ольга батьковна, видимо, по жизни "омега", и это прочитывают по ней как люди, так и собаки. Если для нее "собака=волк", то ее положению в стае волков не позавидуешь...

Цезарь Миллан хотя бы видит в собаке собаку. Возможно, он себя самого чувствует волком-альфой. :D
Кстати, он не из индейцев? Внешне похож...

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Mavra
Rather Cesar States at the or any, ah yes this not the crux of the it is important!

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Here is pro him: Caesar Millan

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Mavra
Thanks for Sharing (exile! In general that and needed prove-simply instructor on correction behavior!

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